"You're not from here!" has been and always will be with us as a rhetorical tool to deflect criticism. It does not make sense and it has no logical end. It can be used to imply north siders have no business commenting on what happens on the south side, for example.
If that is the case then, should journalists who do not live in the Loop be allowed to comment on city plans for it?
A deeper foundational issue may be the clearly recognized and dire need for socio-cultural speech control in Chicago and the suburbs, which Mayor Johnson may be alluding to as a chief legislative aim purposed to bring the advent of utopian peace to the city and its surrounding areas -- starting with handing out free face muzzles on every street corner to eliminate personal institutional and social arguments that often lead to avoidable and unwanted interpersonal violence. It can be estimated that this will reduce the common daily Chicago street mayhem overnight by up to at least ninety-percent!
“But as a 43-year city resident, I sharply disagree. Suburbanites, even those in the exurbs that stretch up to Wisconsin and into northwestern Indiana, have every right and reason to be interested in and have opinions about Chicago.”
Is this who Johnson was talking about though? I assumed he meant those from, for example, New York, or from Florida, not those who will answer “Chicago” when asked by New Yorkers or Floridians where they are from, even if they actually live in Lake County or something.
It's a good think Apple is correcting that autocorrect issue. Because without that news, I never would have understood that visual tweet. I guess I don't swear enough in my texts. (Actually, I've turned off autocorrect everywhere possible.)
Subsidizing a service for all members of a community is quite different than subsidizing one specific member of that community based on the occupation that individual settled upon.
I had the opportunity to attend the CPD Police Recognition Ceremony and Luncheon on 5-31. I spoke with members of command staff and rank and file. There was not a bad word said regarding Mayor Johnson. The general theme was that he (Johnson) seemed genuinely interested in having a good relationship with the department, and conversely, they wanted a good relationship with him. They have a common goal and both sides realize that cooperation is the starting point. At this time, I would say, despite the bluster that sometimes comes out of the FOP, the situation is hopeful and they realize that the great challenge they face will necessitate them working togehter.
That is very encouraging to hear and I'm glad you shared it. I sincerely hope the relationship remains good and that the many issues plaguing CPD can be resolved to the benefit of all its members and all citizens. But that's why the story "44 tickets - one excuse" cop was absolutely infuriating, and not at all funny, Eric!
There can *never* be trust between citizens (and their elected representatives) and the police when behavior like by officers is allowed to and go unpunished. I *absolutely* do and want to support the police (my father was a CPS officer when I was young), and I do and want to support unions. But the FOP's complicity in allowing police like that get paid and receive nice pensions from my tax dollars makes me lose all trust and respect for them all.
Good to hear and I hope that they find a good way forward. But the mayor has yet to say anything of substance regarding any proposals or campaign promises. He is good at fluffy phrases that audiences can interpret as they like. I guess we just have to be patient for a while longer.
2 comments in 1. I agree that people outside of Chicago that frequent the city can voice opinions, yet they are not the ones paying for city and property taxes to support the roads, lights, beautiful parks and police.
I attended an Ireland match during the 1994 World Cup in the US and rode a train with Irish fans. 2 out of every 3 words was an F bomb. Nothing new here.
The people of the collar counties probably spend more money in Chicago than all other tourists, many work in Chicago as well. They pay sales taxes, parking fees, fees for entertainment, sports, educational experiences at the many museums, plus enjoying the popular restaurants and parks. I think they have the right to both compliment and criticize the city they help support.
If people in the suburbs are restricted from speaking on the state of affairs in Chicago, then maybe all the indirect funding of the city by suburban patronage should be eliminated too.
“If you don’t live in Chicago, you don’t have a right to talk about the city of Chicago.” Okay - but let's make it all inclusive. Have nothing good to say about the city - keep it to yourself. Enjoy the wonders and adventures the city has to offer - keep it to yourself. Don't want to go downtown because you have fear - stay home. Enjoy visiting downtown, beaches, concerts, museums, summer festivals - stay home. If the mayor wants to live in a bubble - let him.
Charter Schools - they've really never concerned me. But we are in a weird world now - where it seems like no one can identify what curriculum should be taught - because there is a conspiracy to indoctrinate our children. Cute children's stories - which in the past were considered stories of succeeding, overcoming challenges, friendships, etc are suddenly tools used to talk about stomping people's rights, getting ahead/greed, and alternative lifestyles. Let's go back to old Dick , Jane and Spot.
Obviously! We can't let children know anything about the world around them. We need to hand out blinders. Maybe encourage less interaction with others.
Neil Steinberg published a nice piece about Chicago and radio and the first car radio that was made in Chicago by Motorola. I didn't realize that the engines in electric cars interfered with AM signals. I often listen to John Williams during the day on WGN as our NPR plays classical all morning. I do care about what goes on in Chicago; it's my hometown and a world class city. I do get a few daily Chicago news posts (WGN, Politico, Capitol Fax) and most days there's something about gun violence etc. And, if the hair brained "New Illinois" movement gains traction, Cook County will be the 24th largest state!
A nice batch of Tweets today as well..I so enjoy the PS that I'm always tardy on my yard duty on Tues and Th. Have a great weekend in beautiful Chicago!
Any person can have an opinion about the City of Chicago, good, bad, or indifferent, But, as was the case with the phony Fox News Naperville man-in-the-diner report, it has no real impact. And ultimately those opinions do not matter as much mine, a life-long tax-paying resident of Chicago. Hate/Love the Mayor, City Council, our Sanctuary City status, the CPS/CTU, FOP, whatever and so what,. I have to live with all of these, for better or worse, and MY voice through a vote, will make a difference. So (surprisingly) I agree with Mayor Johnson - keep our name out of your mouth.
1980 was my Freshman year in college, and it, too, was the year I discovered George Winston (the Autumn album). Mary's words took me back to autumn, 1980). The dorm I resided in had its own library with its own budget. It was common for the residents (like me) to submit library collection requests for the purchase of the latest albums that we wanted to add to the collection - which we then borrowed from the library and pirated onto cassette tapes. (Something I am not proud of today.) It was also when/where I discovered Mannheim Steamroller. (Chip Davis, their "front man", was an alum of my university.)
The PGA/Saudi Tweet is clearly the best of this week's crop.
The mayor should consider the opinions and commentary of those that do not live in the city if he is concerned about attracting new residents, tourism, convention business, attracting suburbanites to entertainment venues, attracting/retaining business offices, attracting developers/investors, ridership on regional transit, and asking the state and federal government for funding. It might also be important if he decides to proceed with one of his ideas to tax suburbanites for the privilege of working in the city, increase corporate taxes, return the head tax, increase hotel taxes, or introduce a city income tax. Maybe 'F*** em all" is not the best message for the mayor to send to the unworthy outsiders.
"You're not from here!" has been and always will be with us as a rhetorical tool to deflect criticism. It does not make sense and it has no logical end. It can be used to imply north siders have no business commenting on what happens on the south side, for example.
If that is the case then, should journalists who do not live in the Loop be allowed to comment on city plans for it?
Or former Chicago columnists residing in Indiana excoriating the City, Cook County, and State of IL pols?
People of one race/ethnicity are not allowed to comment on anything regarding people of another race/ethnicity?
People on the lower socio-economic levels are forbidden from commenting on anything regarding people higher on the scale and vice versa.
A deeper foundational issue may be the clearly recognized and dire need for socio-cultural speech control in Chicago and the suburbs, which Mayor Johnson may be alluding to as a chief legislative aim purposed to bring the advent of utopian peace to the city and its surrounding areas -- starting with handing out free face muzzles on every street corner to eliminate personal institutional and social arguments that often lead to avoidable and unwanted interpersonal violence. It can be estimated that this will reduce the common daily Chicago street mayhem overnight by up to at least ninety-percent!
“But as a 43-year city resident, I sharply disagree. Suburbanites, even those in the exurbs that stretch up to Wisconsin and into northwestern Indiana, have every right and reason to be interested in and have opinions about Chicago.”
Is this who Johnson was talking about though? I assumed he meant those from, for example, New York, or from Florida, not those who will answer “Chicago” when asked by New Yorkers or Floridians where they are from, even if they actually live in Lake County or something.
As long as I live in "Chicagoland" I'll say whatever I damn well please about the city.
It's a good think Apple is correcting that autocorrect issue. Because without that news, I never would have understood that visual tweet. I guess I don't swear enough in my texts. (Actually, I've turned off autocorrect everywhere possible.)
I tried turning mine off one time and realized how often it actually helped me. I am a bad fast typer.
Glad to hear I was not alone in not understanding that visual tweet
Not only should the federal government "not* subsidize AM radio, but is should *stop* subsidizing farms.
How about subsidizing high speed internet for rural areas?
I'm all for it. Similar to rural electrification of the 1930s, high speed internet is a basic utility/necessity in today's world.
Sure. Why not?
Subsidizing a service for all members of a community is quite different than subsidizing one specific member of that community based on the occupation that individual settled upon.
I had the opportunity to attend the CPD Police Recognition Ceremony and Luncheon on 5-31. I spoke with members of command staff and rank and file. There was not a bad word said regarding Mayor Johnson. The general theme was that he (Johnson) seemed genuinely interested in having a good relationship with the department, and conversely, they wanted a good relationship with him. They have a common goal and both sides realize that cooperation is the starting point. At this time, I would say, despite the bluster that sometimes comes out of the FOP, the situation is hopeful and they realize that the great challenge they face will necessitate them working togehter.
I sincerely hope you are correct. The City desperately needs the relationship to be a solid one.
That is very encouraging to hear and I'm glad you shared it. I sincerely hope the relationship remains good and that the many issues plaguing CPD can be resolved to the benefit of all its members and all citizens. But that's why the story "44 tickets - one excuse" cop was absolutely infuriating, and not at all funny, Eric!
There can *never* be trust between citizens (and their elected representatives) and the police when behavior like by officers is allowed to and go unpunished. I *absolutely* do and want to support the police (my father was a CPS officer when I was young), and I do and want to support unions. But the FOP's complicity in allowing police like that get paid and receive nice pensions from my tax dollars makes me lose all trust and respect for them all.
Good to hear and I hope that they find a good way forward. But the mayor has yet to say anything of substance regarding any proposals or campaign promises. He is good at fluffy phrases that audiences can interpret as they like. I guess we just have to be patient for a while longer.
Does Mayor Johnson really believe he can control what others say about the city? Oh, how precious.
2 comments in 1. I agree that people outside of Chicago that frequent the city can voice opinions, yet they are not the ones paying for city and property taxes to support the roads, lights, beautiful parks and police.
I attended an Ireland match during the 1994 World Cup in the US and rode a train with Irish fans. 2 out of every 3 words was an F bomb. Nothing new here.
The people of the collar counties probably spend more money in Chicago than all other tourists, many work in Chicago as well. They pay sales taxes, parking fees, fees for entertainment, sports, educational experiences at the many museums, plus enjoying the popular restaurants and parks. I think they have the right to both compliment and criticize the city they help support.
If people in the suburbs are restricted from speaking on the state of affairs in Chicago, then maybe all the indirect funding of the city by suburban patronage should be eliminated too.
“If you don’t live in Chicago, you don’t have a right to talk about the city of Chicago.” Okay - but let's make it all inclusive. Have nothing good to say about the city - keep it to yourself. Enjoy the wonders and adventures the city has to offer - keep it to yourself. Don't want to go downtown because you have fear - stay home. Enjoy visiting downtown, beaches, concerts, museums, summer festivals - stay home. If the mayor wants to live in a bubble - let him.
Charter Schools - they've really never concerned me. But we are in a weird world now - where it seems like no one can identify what curriculum should be taught - because there is a conspiracy to indoctrinate our children. Cute children's stories - which in the past were considered stories of succeeding, overcoming challenges, friendships, etc are suddenly tools used to talk about stomping people's rights, getting ahead/greed, and alternative lifestyles. Let's go back to old Dick , Jane and Spot.
Teaching kids that some of their classmates might be transgender and that some kids have two fathers or two mothers is “indoctrinating” children?
Obviously! We can't let children know anything about the world around them. We need to hand out blinders. Maybe encourage less interaction with others.
Kate Wolf is much missed. Such a talented singer/songwriter.
Chuck
Neil Steinberg published a nice piece about Chicago and radio and the first car radio that was made in Chicago by Motorola. I didn't realize that the engines in electric cars interfered with AM signals. I often listen to John Williams during the day on WGN as our NPR plays classical all morning. I do care about what goes on in Chicago; it's my hometown and a world class city. I do get a few daily Chicago news posts (WGN, Politico, Capitol Fax) and most days there's something about gun violence etc. And, if the hair brained "New Illinois" movement gains traction, Cook County will be the 24th largest state!
A nice batch of Tweets today as well..I so enjoy the PS that I'm always tardy on my yard duty on Tues and Th. Have a great weekend in beautiful Chicago!
Any person can have an opinion about the City of Chicago, good, bad, or indifferent, But, as was the case with the phony Fox News Naperville man-in-the-diner report, it has no real impact. And ultimately those opinions do not matter as much mine, a life-long tax-paying resident of Chicago. Hate/Love the Mayor, City Council, our Sanctuary City status, the CPS/CTU, FOP, whatever and so what,. I have to live with all of these, for better or worse, and MY voice through a vote, will make a difference. So (surprisingly) I agree with Mayor Johnson - keep our name out of your mouth.
Loved Anna Devlantes on the Rascals. I wasn’t that familiar with her. I hope she becomes a regular.
Indeed. Thumbs up to Anna on the Rascals. That podcast is always better when there is a female to balance things out.
1980 was my Freshman year in college, and it, too, was the year I discovered George Winston (the Autumn album). Mary's words took me back to autumn, 1980). The dorm I resided in had its own library with its own budget. It was common for the residents (like me) to submit library collection requests for the purchase of the latest albums that we wanted to add to the collection - which we then borrowed from the library and pirated onto cassette tapes. (Something I am not proud of today.) It was also when/where I discovered Mannheim Steamroller. (Chip Davis, their "front man", was an alum of my university.)
The PGA/Saudi Tweet is clearly the best of this week's crop.
The mayor should consider the opinions and commentary of those that do not live in the city if he is concerned about attracting new residents, tourism, convention business, attracting suburbanites to entertainment venues, attracting/retaining business offices, attracting developers/investors, ridership on regional transit, and asking the state and federal government for funding. It might also be important if he decides to proceed with one of his ideas to tax suburbanites for the privilege of working in the city, increase corporate taxes, return the head tax, increase hotel taxes, or introduce a city income tax. Maybe 'F*** em all" is not the best message for the mayor to send to the unworthy outsiders.